That was fascinating. My step daughter correctly works in fashion and she would have loved the golden age of glossy magazines. I hadn’t realized just what we are missing these days. Thanks for the article.
Actually you skimmed over another woman too and it makes me sad, but also sorry that you felt you had to critique a fun, lighthearted story featuring beautiful women of all ages and backgrounds sharing the stories of their careers back in the day and their reactions to a movie about the ridiculousness of fashion. And on substack which is such a supportive community. These woman are a handful of my friends/women in my circle and do not and do to claim to represent the global fashion community. Then or now.
And you are misinformed about the beautiful and incredibly diverse range of women (and men) sharing fashion advice today - they come in all different shapes, sizes, skin tones, and with wide ranging points of views thanks to platforms like Substack, TikTok, ShopMy, IG and a permanently changed fashion and media landscape.
Which let’s face it is the entire point of the movie
Totally welcome your feedback and an honest conversation- just saying you missed the mark in terms of the women featured and the fashion industry especially now. I don’t think it acknowledges all the amazing editors, creators tastemakers of all ages, backgrounds and viewpoints.
Fair. I haven’t seen DWP2 but have read reviews; I did see and enjoyed DWP1. I follow fashion and have for decades. I’m not misinformed about who is creating and commenting on fashion and its place in our lives. I’m delighted to see that, very slowly, it has opened up to designers and the internet has opened the gates for a wide variety of people from different backgrounds commenting on it. I follow several of those people and I watch designers videos of their shows. My criticism is that, despite this opening, the loudest voices in the room are thin white women. They are usually affluent. The most powerful of those women (although it’s significantly diminished) are in the Vogue “family”—and there’s not a fat one or a non-white one there. That’s not because the “outsiders” lack an audience. It is because for decades there was a singular voice, and it was Anna Wintour and the women she elevated and hired: thin white women. When Enninful was hired for British Vogue, it was shocking, not least because he was not white. But he didn’t last long, did he? From what I’ve heard, DWP2 focuses on the effect on the fashion business of the decline of traditional print media—and the lead actors in it are mostly thin white women. I think we are seeing the decline of a juggernaut, which is not a bad thing. It’s messy now and I’m hopeful that creativity will blossom because of it. We are witnessing the end of many traditions and I hope that one of the most toxic traditions dies with it: that often, the worst enforcers of women’s bodies and conduct is other women.
The first thing I noticed is that all these women in charge of telling us what’s new what’s now what’s future—all are thin beautiful white women. This explains everything about the fashion world and why we don’t see many other races or body sizes or gender identity or sexuality portrayed. Sadly, the most tenacious enforcers of women are other women.
I was crazy about following Kate Betts career! Love seeing her here in your column — and on Substack.
What stood out most is how much people miss the mystery and creative conviction of that era, not just the actual fashion itself
I love that you were able to get interviews from women who were/ are in the industry. So very insightful and interesting!
Very interested story Natasha. I really enjoyed . A world that is very new to me .
Great piece. Kate once chose one of my UnCabaret CD's yes kids - CD's - in her top 10 spread and it really just could not have been more thrilling
That was fascinating. My step daughter correctly works in fashion and she would have loved the golden age of glossy magazines. I hadn’t realized just what we are missing these days. Thanks for the article.
Thanks for reading, appreciate. Hi to your step daughter, happy to chat with her :)
Such an interesting and informative story. Love hearing about all the ladies who worked in fashion. X
Whoops. I skimmed right over Zara Wong but I think the remainder of my critique stands. Sorry, Ms Wong!
Actually you skimmed over another woman too and it makes me sad, but also sorry that you felt you had to critique a fun, lighthearted story featuring beautiful women of all ages and backgrounds sharing the stories of their careers back in the day and their reactions to a movie about the ridiculousness of fashion. And on substack which is such a supportive community. These woman are a handful of my friends/women in my circle and do not and do to claim to represent the global fashion community. Then or now.
And you are misinformed about the beautiful and incredibly diverse range of women (and men) sharing fashion advice today - they come in all different shapes, sizes, skin tones, and with wide ranging points of views thanks to platforms like Substack, TikTok, ShopMy, IG and a permanently changed fashion and media landscape.
Which let’s face it is the entire point of the movie
Oooo hit a nerve, did I?
Totally welcome your feedback and an honest conversation- just saying you missed the mark in terms of the women featured and the fashion industry especially now. I don’t think it acknowledges all the amazing editors, creators tastemakers of all ages, backgrounds and viewpoints.
Fair. I haven’t seen DWP2 but have read reviews; I did see and enjoyed DWP1. I follow fashion and have for decades. I’m not misinformed about who is creating and commenting on fashion and its place in our lives. I’m delighted to see that, very slowly, it has opened up to designers and the internet has opened the gates for a wide variety of people from different backgrounds commenting on it. I follow several of those people and I watch designers videos of their shows. My criticism is that, despite this opening, the loudest voices in the room are thin white women. They are usually affluent. The most powerful of those women (although it’s significantly diminished) are in the Vogue “family”—and there’s not a fat one or a non-white one there. That’s not because the “outsiders” lack an audience. It is because for decades there was a singular voice, and it was Anna Wintour and the women she elevated and hired: thin white women. When Enninful was hired for British Vogue, it was shocking, not least because he was not white. But he didn’t last long, did he? From what I’ve heard, DWP2 focuses on the effect on the fashion business of the decline of traditional print media—and the lead actors in it are mostly thin white women. I think we are seeing the decline of a juggernaut, which is not a bad thing. It’s messy now and I’m hopeful that creativity will blossom because of it. We are witnessing the end of many traditions and I hope that one of the most toxic traditions dies with it: that often, the worst enforcers of women’s bodies and conduct is other women.
The first thing I noticed is that all these women in charge of telling us what’s new what’s now what’s future—all are thin beautiful white women. This explains everything about the fashion world and why we don’t see many other races or body sizes or gender identity or sexuality portrayed. Sadly, the most tenacious enforcers of women are other women.
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